We’ve got a celebration going on today! Break out the cupcakes. This is episode 25, so I’m changing things up for this one. My friend Janette Gallardo asks ME the questions I’m usually asking my guests. This was her idea because she wanted to know more of my story and thought you, the listener, would want to know too.
She does an outstanding job and even gets me to cry. Clearly you want to hear that part, right?
We chat about the difference between learning and implementing. We can study and learn all day, every day, and it only becomes valuable when you apply that knowledge.
We cover how you are not obligated to stay in a relationship that’s no longer serving you. And,
I absolutely love that Janette shared her belief of “everything that is meant for you is going to happen.”
Here’s to another 25 – ok, let’s get real – here’s to another 125 episodes. Cheers!
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My hype song? I chose two. Because that’s my prerogative.
- Carrie Underwood’s Champion. Listen at https://youtu.be/HgknAaKNaMM
- Van Halen’s Right Now. Listen at https://youtu.be/xEI7cTBVr2A
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Transcript
Hello and welcome to this episode of Fine is a
Lori Saitz:4-Letter Word This is a very special episode because this is
Lori Saitz:Episode 25 which is quite a milestone because not a whole
Lori Saitz:lot of podcasts get to Episode 25. I know that seems crazy to
Lori Saitz:to think about but here we are already at Episode 25. This
Lori Saitz:one's going to be a little bit different because my friend
Lori Saitz:Janette Gallardo is on. Did I pronounce that right? Yes, I
Lori Saitz:did. Okay, so she's on here with me. And she's going to turn the
Lori Saitz:tables on this situation, and she's going to interview me. So
Lori Saitz:I'm going to turn it over to Janette, and let her go. And
Lori Saitz:we'll see where this goes. Welcome, Janette.
Janette Gallardo:Thank you. I'm very excited. And first of all,
Janette Gallardo:congratulations on episode 25. This is very exciting. And
Janette Gallardo:before we begin with the interview, I would like to
Janette Gallardo:introduce myself. So I am Janette Gallardo. I am the
Janette Gallardo:founder of Vitta Solutions. And I do fractional CFO work as well
Janette Gallardo:as money mindset coaching. So yeah, so let's get started. I'm
Janette Gallardo:very excited because as you know, like, I have so many
Janette Gallardo:questions for you like I follow your podcast. And I'm always
Janette Gallardo:intrigued and learning from your guess. But I have always
Janette Gallardo:wondered, like, what about you like I want to get you to know I
Janette Gallardo:want to get to know you more. So this is the perfect episode to
Janette Gallardo:turn things a little bit around and get you on the spotlight and
Janette Gallardo:get for the audience. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that
Janette Gallardo:wants to know you more. So as you know, we always start this
Janette Gallardo:this podcast with a little bit of getting to know you, like a
Janette Gallardo:brief overview of your early life. And we want to know like
Janette Gallardo:what was expected of you growing up?
Lori Saitz:Yes, I knew you were gonna ask me that, because
Lori Saitz:that's what I asked everyone. So yeah, my beliefs and values. You
Lori Saitz:know, one of the ones that came to mind most immediately was
Lori Saitz:education, education is important. That was always
Lori Saitz:something that was emphasized in my family. And always and that
Lori Saitz:is you always have to be learning, like my maternal
Lori Saitz:grandfather lived to be 97. 96 or 97. And he was always
Lori Saitz:learning. That's a lifelong thing. So that's great, because
Lori Saitz:I think that as humans, we should always be learning. The
Lori Saitz:downside, or if there's a negative side to it is that for
Lori Saitz:a very long time. And this is something I still manage work on
Lori Saitz:managing is that I never know enough. Right? Right, right.
Lori Saitz:Yeah, being in that place of Well, I don't know enough yet. I
Lori Saitz:still have to learn more in order to do X, Y, or Z. I don't
Lori Saitz:know enough. So and
Janette Gallardo:I also feel like there's a flip side to
Janette Gallardo:that, because it's great. I think that's a great thing to
Janette Gallardo:have, like you want to develop and grow and learn. But I think
Janette Gallardo:the flip side to that is are you applying it into your life? Or
Janette Gallardo:are you just learning to learn and just going through life
Janette Gallardo:being fine without making any changes? Was that the case for
Janette Gallardo:in like in your family, your grandfather? And like one of the
Janette Gallardo:I guess habits?
Lori Saitz:That's a good point, because I think that is
Lori Saitz:something that I have done is go and learn and learn and learn,
Lori Saitz:but not necessarily implement in the in the past I've gotten
Lori Saitz:better read in the more recent years but good, good point there
Lori Saitz:because yes, there is there's value in learning for learnings
Lori Saitz:sake, but then there's also there's not value if you're not
Lori Saitz:if you're just learning and not implementing that could be to
Lori Saitz:your detriment.
Janette Gallardo:Right. Right. Right. And do you find that with
Janette Gallardo:Well, let me jump on to this question because I and I want to
Janette Gallardo:learn more about your program and I was gonna ask with the
Janette Gallardo:program that you're currently running. Do you find that with
Janette Gallardo:your, the the participants that they're like, they have done all
Janette Gallardo:this work on themselves and all the things and you know, like
Janette Gallardo:they audit a play that they have, like they have gained so
Janette Gallardo:much growth, but are they applying what they have learned
Janette Gallardo:or all of the education that they have done? Are they
Janette Gallardo:applying to end their lives? Or is that where you come in and
Janette Gallardo:kind of like help them navigate through Or how does that how
Janette Gallardo:does that look? So walk us a little bit through your program.
Janette Gallardo:And then like your clients, like where are they in? What stage of
Janette Gallardo:their life they're in?
Lori Saitz:Yeah, I'll do that. And then I also want to go back
Lori Saitz:and and because there are a couple other things of values
Lori Saitz:and beliefs that play into some things as well. But yes, one of
Lori Saitz:the things that the people who participate in my program have
Lori Saitz:is that they are not new to personal development, like
Lori Saitz:they've been doing personal development for years. And
Lori Saitz:really, personal development isn't something where you get to
Lori Saitz:a point you're like, Okay, I'm done here. It's, it is a
Lori Saitz:lifelong process of always learning more about yourself,
Lori Saitz:and how you interact and how you communicate and how you function
Lori Saitz:in the world. So that is something that they have
Lori Saitz:experience with, and that they understand is a lifelong thing.
Lori Saitz:implementation is, like you said, a lot of people learn for
Lori Saitz:the just to learn and then never implement and that's why the
Lori Saitz:program has actual exercises, like I hesitate to call it
Lori Saitz:homework, but there are exercises after every session to
Lori Saitz:carry out on your own to go do things for example, one of them
Lori Saitz:in the end well, I'm sure you'll ask me more about this question
Lori Saitz:because I get it all the time about the three different parts
Lori Saitz:which is in the fuck being find experience, there's the trilogy
Lori Saitz:for success. And one of the components of that is gratitude.
Lori Saitz:And one of the exercises under gratitude is to write three
Lori Saitz:letters three gratitude letters to people who have positively
Lori Saitz:contributed to your life in some way and that maybe they don't
Lori Saitz:know.
Janette Gallardo:I love that. Oh, I love that that's so good.
Janette Gallardo:Like Yeah, then we can we'll continue on diving into cuz I
Janette Gallardo:know you have a lot to share through through throughout but
Janette Gallardo:like Yeah, let's go back to um, what were the beliefs that were
Janette Gallardo:instilled in you and that you picked up?
Lori Saitz:Yeah, so two more One of them was about being
Lori Saitz:practical with money that you have to be practical and you
Lori Saitz:have to be responsible with money. I am pretty sure that my
Lori Saitz:dad co signed because I can't think of how else I would have
Lori Saitz:gotten a credit card at 17 but that's when I got my first
Lori Saitz:credit card and I believe it was a Macy's card because those are
Lori Saitz:easier to get you know, a store card, but to start building my
Lori Saitz:credit and to start learning how to be responsible with credit
Lori Saitz:that savings was always a big thing like I have I have a piggy
Lori Saitz:bank that is actually a ceramic pig that I have had since I was
Lori Saitz:a child that thing is still not cracked open it's sitting on my
Lori Saitz:dresser so money being responsible with money donating
Lori Saitz:money to charitable causes was always something that was that
Lori Saitz:was important in my family. So the flip side of that is that I
Lori Saitz:have a hard time allowing myself treats or doing nice things for
Lori Saitz:myself because I should be saving the money right it's all
Lori Saitz:about saving it so you can have it for the future I don't know
Lori Saitz:what's happening in the future that I need all this money for
Lori Saitz:but that's that's what I was learning.
Janette Gallardo:So and how have you seen that so aside from
Janette Gallardo:just like, I guess there's this guilt and I can relate to that i
Janette Gallardo:i think that plays I don't know if it just by being a women or
Janette Gallardo:just anybody that money has played has been a big factor in
Janette Gallardo:their upbringing. But how have you overcome that so that you
Janette Gallardo:can actually treat yourself and not feel guilty?
Lori Saitz:I'm still working on that. I you know, sometimes it's
Lori Saitz:it's smaller things that Oh, I'll do something like I could
Lori Saitz:get I could get a cupcake or I could but you know, I could
Lori Saitz:really use a massage and I have not allowed myself to do that in
Lori Saitz:a very long time. So it's
Janette Gallardo:We're definitely like booking a
Janette Gallardo:massage after this.
Lori Saitz:Okay. That sounds good. And then the third thing
Lori Saitz:was, and I didn't realize that I had learned this until after my
Lori Saitz:mom passed away seven years ago. But friendships are important.
Lori Saitz:Friendships have always been important to me. I knew that
Lori Saitz:part. But I didn't know where that came from and it was came
Lori Saitz:from watching her I guess from just being around her, she had
Lori Saitz:friends that she had one friend, my, who we called My Aunt
Lori Saitz:Carole. They were friends since they were five years old. And
Lori Saitz:she was still good friends with her college roommate and other
Lori Saitz:people that she just she had lifelong friendships and I have
Lori Saitz:the same. And so clearly, I saw that, that she was modeled,
Lori Saitz:excuse me that she was modeling that for me. And I, I love that.
Lori Saitz:I love that I have that. I love that she modeled that for me.
Janette Gallardo:Yeah, that is like, so important as like to
Janette Gallardo:have that community and nourish, like, true friendships. That is
Janette Gallardo:beautiful. And that is like, a lot, like, awesome that you have
Janette Gallardo:that in you. And, and I think it is very, I remember like, when I
Janette Gallardo:first met you, I felt that like it just you, you, um, you're
Janette Gallardo:like so welcoming, and so open and just so inviting, that I
Janette Gallardo:felt in and I knew I don't know, I don't know if you knew, but I
Janette Gallardo:knew I'm like, oh, we're gonna we're gonna be good friends.
Lori Saitz:I love it. Yeah, yeah. And you know, the flip
Lori Saitz:side of that is that I tend to be very, very loyal to people.
Lori Saitz:And so I stay friends with people pretty much forever if
Lori Saitz:you come into my friend world, but at the same time, if if it's
Lori Saitz:not a necessarily healthy relationship, I might stay in it
Lori Saitz:too long. Because I am very loyal to that relationship.
Janette Gallardo:So walk me through that, like how does that
Janette Gallardo:look? How do you know when to, um, I guess let go have a
Janette Gallardo:relationship that is not serving you.
Lori Saitz:Yeah, okay, now you're gonna make me cry. So
Lori Saitz:that's part of what happened, I think in you know, in my
Lori Saitz:marriage, because I, this was a person that was, is, he is still
Lori Saitz:an amazing person. But when the relationship got to the point
Lori Saitz:where it wasn't really serving either one of us anymore. Yeah,
Lori Saitz:we stayed in because loyalty because we can make this work
Lori Saitz:because there's history. Like, that's what you know, a lot of
Lori Saitz:friendships have this history, and you don't want to give that
Lori Saitz:up. And so it's, you know, about become realizing that, okay,
Lori Saitz:you're not giving up the history. You're, you're not
Lori Saitz:really giving up anything, it's just freeing each other to go on
Lori Saitz:and live the next season of life.
Janette Gallardo:Yeah, yeah. That's, that's so powerful.
Janette Gallardo:Because I do believe that a lot of people stay in those
Janette Gallardo:friendships and relationships, and just, Oh, I just love that
Janette Gallardo:you're being so like, like, just opening up to us, like love that
Janette Gallardo:because I know, I know, people are gonna, I gonna appreciate it
Janette Gallardo:too. Like to get to see also your world and learn about you.
Janette Gallardo:So thank you, thank you for being so open. Yeah. But as As I
Janette Gallardo:was saying, like, it's so powerful to be able to identify
Janette Gallardo:and identify that, okay, this relationship is no longer
Janette Gallardo:serving us. So let's move forward because it is so easy to
Janette Gallardo:stay as is and that fine, like, We're fine. Like, there's
Janette Gallardo:nothing wrong, it's just that we're just fine. And there's no
Janette Gallardo:longer any inspiration or aspiration, motivation growth
Janette Gallardo:for the relationship either. So that is so powerful that you can
Janette Gallardo:actually look at it and share ish everything that you have had
Janette Gallardo:with that person, but still be able to move forward and let go.
Janette Gallardo:And, and, and I mean, and I keep on coming back to your program,
Janette Gallardo:because I'm like, that's probably something that you that
Janette Gallardo:you covered during your F*ck eing Fine Experience, I'm
Janette Gallardo:assuming Yeah, like, how do you let go
Lori Saitz:Right, because it takes a lot of courage to to le
Lori Saitz:go of whether it's a relations ip with a marriage, a partner, w
Lori Saitz:atever that is, or it's a rel tionship with a job being in a
Lori Saitz:job for 20 years and just not f eling fulfilled anymore, o
Lori Saitz:letting go of, you know, you nd I don't have children,
Lori Saitz:ut people who have children, etting them go, that's wha
Lori Saitz:you raise them for was to be esponsible adults to let them g
Lori Saitz:out on their own. All of tho e. Those situations are very d
Lori Saitz:fficult to navigate through an when I first left my marriage,
Lori Saitz:eople were telling me how courag ous That was and I'm like, that
Lori Saitz:s not well, yeah, no, no, no, I idn't see it as being courageous
Lori Saitz:And looking back, though, ye h, there is an element of
Lori Saitz:courage to that you have to be willing to jump off the cliff.
Lori Saitz:Even if you don't see a safe lan ing below you, you don't see
Lori Saitz:landing at all or your job, don't know where this is go
Lori Saitz:ng to take me. You have to be willing to move in faith, tru
Lori Saitz:t and faith. And so that is, t e third part of the trilogy fo
Lori Saitz:success is courage. The first art is gratitude. The second par
Lori Saitz:is connections, friendship , connections. And the third
Lori Saitz:art is courage.
Janette Gallardo:Wow, that and that is so important. And as you
Janette Gallardo:were saying, like, when you love your marriage, and people were
Janette Gallardo:telling you that that was so courageous, and you're like, you
Janette Gallardo:can see that, but it is just trusting the unknown, I think
Janette Gallardo:that's so powerful. And like just trusting that, that
Janette Gallardo:everything that is meant for you is going to happen and, and just
Janette Gallardo:being there and trusting that that that unknown, which is I
Janette Gallardo:think is the most uncomfortable, uncomfortable thing for for us
Janette Gallardo:as humans to do. Um, so how do you how do you walk that walk
Janette Gallardo:and stay trusting that everything is going to work out?
Lori Saitz:Yeah, well, first of all, I love that you said
Lori Saitz:everything that is meant for you will happen. That is such a
Lori Saitz:powerful thing to keep in mind and to you know, put on a
Lori Saitz:bulletin board or a whiteboard or a post it note and just keep
Lori Saitz:in your bathroom, or wherever you need it to remind you. Yeah,
Lori Saitz:one of the tools that I used to help me through that experience
Lori Saitz:through through that experience, and every day since is
Lori Saitz:meditation. Oh, yes. And yeah, I mean, there's not really a day
Lori Saitz:that goes by that I don't meditate for at least five
Lori Saitz:minutes. I mean, you know, it doesn't have to be an hour. It's
Lori Saitz:done. There's, there's a Zen proverb that if you don't have
Lori Saitz:time to meditate for an hour a day, you should meditate for
Lori Saitz:two. Yeah. But even that you don't have to put an hour into
Lori Saitz:it, you know, 5, 10, 15 minutes, can be enough to help you feel
Lori Saitz:grounded and calm and find that sense of peace. And I'm at the
Lori Saitz:point now where I, it's almost like I didn't brush my teeth. If
Lori Saitz:I leave the house or get up and get into my day, without
Lori Saitz:meditating. It's just part of my morning routine at this point.
Janette Gallardo:Yes, I. I love that. Because as you know, I'm
Janette Gallardo:like a big, big into meditating. And that's a big part of my life
Janette Gallardo:as well. And so can you share with us? What does marriage
Janette Gallardo:because I think there's a misconception or people see
Janette Gallardo:meditation as different things and means different things to
Janette Gallardo:different people. Can you walk us through what meditation can
Janette Gallardo:look like? Because there are so many phases of meditation? And
Janette Gallardo:like, how can you actually bring that as part of your routine?
Lori Saitz:Yeah, you know, I I love that the app, Insight
Lori Saitz:Timer. Insight Timer, we can put that in the show notes. But
Lori Saitz:insight timer is an app you can download for free. And there are
Lori Saitz:100,000 meditations on there. None of mine, but that's okay.
Lori Saitz:Not yet anyway. Yeah, the so picking up something from there,
Lori Saitz:you can search by time, if you only have 10 minutes, you can
Lori Saitz:find it. You can search by topic, whether you want to a
Lori Saitz:meditation for anxiety, or stress or sleep or whatever it
Lori Saitz:is. I just find something there. Usually in the for the morning
Lori Saitz:meditations, I usually find something from there. And listen
Lori Saitz:to that. So So meditation is not necessarily and I've had clients
Lori Saitz:tell me that they thought meditation was getting, you
Lori Saitz:know, sitting cross legged on a mat, in complete silence and
Lori Saitz:getting rid of all of the thoughts in their head. Yeah,
Lori Saitz:which is virtually impossible for anybody. So then, they
Lori Saitz:thought they were doing it wrong, because they couldn't do
Lori Saitz:that. Yeah. But meditation is really about seeing the thoughts
Lori Saitz:coming into your head and then coming back to bringing yourself
Lori Saitz:back to your breathing, the sound of the meditation,
Lori Saitz:teachers voice, your heartbeat, whatever it is. You're bringing
Lori Saitz:yourself back to that is actually part of the practice of
Lori Saitz:meditation is keep bringing yourself back, keep bringing
Lori Saitz:yourself back. And a lot of people meditation using a guided
Lori Saitz:meditation, that's not cheating. That's another thing is people
Lori Saitz:are like, well, I couldn't sit in silence. And it's kind of
Lori Saitz:cheating if I listen to music or meditation with a guided
Lori Saitz:meditation, with voice, not cheating at all, because it's
Lori Saitz:really about calming your nervous system, your circulatory
Lori Saitz:system, calming yourself, and getting into this place where
Lori Saitz:you're just grounded and centered, and in touch with your
Lori Saitz:own inner truth. That's what we don't give ourselves enough time
Lori Saitz:to do
Janette Gallardo:Yeah, that, that gave me goosebumps. Yes.
Janette Gallardo:It's been like connected to oneself and to our truth. I love
Janette Gallardo:that to our truth. Yeah, I this is the first time I see it that
Janette Gallardo:way, it is our truth. So before I asked you a lot, another
Janette Gallardo:question on the meditation. I have this one, like, How were
Janette Gallardo:you introduced to meditation? Like when when How long have you
Janette Gallardo:been practicing? Like, what was your story with with meditation?
Lori Saitz:Yeah, my, another great thing my mom did for me,
Lori Saitz:she did many things as I was growing up. But she introduced
Lori Saitz:my brother and me to meditation when I was 10. She took us to
Lori Saitz:this meditation course, that's now known as the Silva Method.
Lori Saitz:And put us through this course. So I learned how to meditate
Lori Saitz:when I was 10. But then, I didn't use it for like, the next
Lori Saitz:35 years. So I don't know why, like, I knew about all the
Lori Saitz:benefits, and I knew it would help me. And I still didn't do
Lori Saitz:it. Until until shortly after she passed away. And then I got
Lori Saitz:back into it because I was looking for some ways to be
Lori Saitz:grounded and centered and find that sense of peace. And I came
Lori Saitz:back to it and, and found found some meditations that worked for
Lori Saitz:me.
Janette Gallardo:Wow, I feel like it was a full circle. So
Janette Gallardo:she prepare you for when she passed.
Lori Saitz:Now You're gonna make me cry again.
Janette Gallardo:As I'm listening to you, I'm like,
Janette Gallardo:what? So she gave you the tools, but you weren't ready,
Janette Gallardo:because she was preparing you for her passing? Wow.
Lori Saitz:Sure. I never looked at it that way. That's, yeah.
Janette Gallardo:Yeah, cuz that's the thing, right? Because
Janette Gallardo:we again, for the learning, we learn, we learn, we learn. But
Janette Gallardo:sometimes it's not. It's not the time for us to come in and do
Janette Gallardo:the work. But it's in there. Like we're we have it in as we
Janette Gallardo:have the tools. So when we're ready. It shows that like,
Janette Gallardo:whatever situation that might be, and then we're ready. We
Janette Gallardo:have the tools and we can work on that area of our life. So
Janette Gallardo:it's like a full circle. Yes. Wow, that that, though, whoa.
Lori Saitz:So insightful of you. Yeah.
Janette Gallardo:Well, that's how I feel things. That's how
Janette Gallardo:things work out. I feel like you were doing all this things. And
Janette Gallardo:sometimes you don't even know that you're already doing the
Janette Gallardo:work until you're faced with a challenge. And you're still like
Janette Gallardo:you're there, where you have been preparing yourself without
Janette Gallardo:knowing to face that challenge and to pull off all those tools
Janette Gallardo:that you learned when you were 10. So it's, it's kind of like
Janette Gallardo:how I see it. But one one question I do have because I
Janette Gallardo:love Love, love your meditations, you actually did a
Janette Gallardo:custom meditation for me. And it was so powerful. So um, I have
Janette Gallardo:been meditating for a couple of years now. And I had never had
Janette Gallardo:like a custom meditation. I didn't even think that existed
Janette Gallardo:until you did my meditation. And I want to share with the
Janette Gallardo:audience because it was awesome. And from somebody that I have
Janette Gallardo:been like practicing meditation, I totally forgot that it was a
Janette Gallardo:custom made meditation because it was so professional and your
Janette Gallardo:voice is so beautiful and so powerful.
Lori Saitz:But I did not. I did not pay Jeannette to say this. I
Lori Saitz:didn't even ask her to we didn't discss. Ok. Go on.
Janette Gallardo:I wasn't paid for this. I'm actually like, I
Janette Gallardo:love her. I love her voice and you have like this voice like
Janette Gallardo:you were meant to. Yeah, to speak for us to to help us heal
Janette Gallardo:and your meditation to me, I totally forgot that you had like
Janette Gallardo:it was custom made. And then all of a sudden you're saying things
Janette Gallardo:that like during our conversation that you were going
Janette Gallardo:to up, you know, like to help me with whatever I was working on.
Janette Gallardo:And all of a sudden, like your start bringing in, like I
Janette Gallardo:remember like walking in my grandmother's house and this and
Janette Gallardo:I just started crying. Like I got so emotional, it's just took
Janette Gallardo:me to a different place and a different level of meditating.
Janette Gallardo:So I did want to bring that up because I felt very connected to
Janette Gallardo:your medic, like the way you do your custom meditations. And I
Janette Gallardo:want you, I want you to share with us like how the process of
Janette Gallardo:that, like how do you work with with clients on that, because
Janette Gallardo:they're so at least for me was so powerful. And to me, it's
Janette Gallardo:like, you planted the seed in my subconscious without even
Janette Gallardo:realizing and things. Like, I'd have seen a lot of shifts
Janette Gallardo:through your meditation. So I do believe they're so powerful. So
Janette Gallardo:So walk us through that, like the process and, and, and your
Janette Gallardo:love for them. Because I can feel the love like, like, well,
Janette Gallardo:following your guided meditation.
Lori Saitz:Yeah, so the custom gratitude meditations are
Lori Saitz:actually part of the F*ck Being Fine Experience, because that is
Lori Saitz:in the second part of the trilogy, is connections where we
Lori Saitz:talk about connections with others. And then of course, most
Lori Saitz:importantly, the connection with yourself. And so anybody who
Lori Saitz:participates in the program gets a customized meditation. And
Lori Saitz:then they're also available outside of the program, which is
Lori Saitz:is what you and I did with that. But those custom meditations
Lori Saitz:help people get into this feeling of gratitude, feeling
Lori Saitz:gratitude, which is one of them more elevated emotions, elevated
Lori Saitz:emotions, that we that you want to be in, in order to manifest
Lori Saitz:things in into your life, you have to be vibrating, that's the
Lori Saitz:word I was looking for, you have to be at a vibration, a higher
Lori Saitz:vibration. And gratitude is one of the highest vibrations, you
Lori Saitz:can be at joy, love appreciation, those are the
Lori Saitz:higher vibrations. And so in order to bring the things into
Lori Saitz:your life that you want, you have to be matching that higher
Lori Saitz:vibration. And that's what those meditations do is they help
Lori Saitz:people to feel gratitude. And I start out by helping clients
Lori Saitz:feel gratitude for things that have happened in the past and
Lori Saitz:things that are currently manifested into their life.
Lori Saitz:Because sometimes it's easier to feel gratitude for those things
Lori Saitz:you can remember. And then I carry that through into feeling
Lori Saitz:gratitude for those things that you are working on manifesting
Lori Saitz:into your life feeling gratitude for them as if they are already
Lori Saitz:here. Because that is the key. That's the that's the trick, if
Lori Saitz:you will, to getting them to manifest faster. And if people
Lori Saitz:don't like the term manifest. The other way to phrase that is,
Lori Saitz:is achieving goals. Yes, yes. So getting to those goal
Lori Saitz:achievements faster. When you are visualizing and meditating
Lori Saitz:on those things. They happen faster.
Janette Gallardo:Yes. Oh, that makes so much sense. Because as
Janette Gallardo:I'm thinking of the meditation you did for me, and you were
Janette Gallardo:asking me because I was wondering, why are you asking me
Janette Gallardo:all these questions, but now it makes sense, because you asked
Janette Gallardo:me like, tell me about a time or place or experience where you
Janette Gallardo:felt that like gratitude where you fell in love where you fell
Janette Gallardo:in love? Joy? See. Yeah. And then as you're walking me
Janette Gallardo:through my meditation, you're like, you're dropping those
Janette Gallardo:insights in there. And the most powerful thing is that it feels
Janette Gallardo:like I don't know, I felt like I was paying for this, like, you
Janette Gallardo:know, like, high end meditation. So that's what I loved about it,
Janette Gallardo:because I I totally forgot that it was my own. And I love how
Janette Gallardo:you walk me through it and and you said me at first, I felt the
Janette Gallardo:emotions in my body. Yeah, when you were walking me through it,
Janette Gallardo:I felt that and it felt so real. Like, I mean, I started crying.
Janette Gallardo:I wasn't sad. It was like this. crying like I felt so connected
Janette Gallardo:to those feelings, that it brought tears to my eyes. And
Janette Gallardo:then as you started walking me through the future, and my, what
Janette Gallardo:I wanted to manifest are my goals. And they felt so real.
Janette Gallardo:And it's just an it's one of the meditations that I keep on going
Janette Gallardo:back to and it's, it's so it's so amazing. I'm always amazed.
Janette Gallardo:how things are start, like start showing up because it does play
Janette Gallardo:in your subconscious and, and as you said, like staying in the
Janette Gallardo:higher state of vibration is gonna help you move forward
Janette Gallardo:towards those goals or toward manifesting. So that makes total
Janette Gallardo:like now I can see like how, how that is connected? That is so
Janette Gallardo:awesome.
Lori Saitz:Yeah. And I get that feedback from a lot of people
Lori Saitz:that I've created them for the same thing. It's this. Yeah,
Lori Saitz:it's a feeling that you can't get from any other kind of
Lori Saitz:meditation.
Janette Gallardo:Yes. And I felt that in for people that
Janette Gallardo:haven't tried them, I highly recommend them. Like, it's such
Janette Gallardo:a mean, I'm why I'm saying it for me as that I truly like. I
Janette Gallardo:mean, I love them. And I do believe that people would
Janette Gallardo:benefit from those, even the ones from your podcast, like at
Janette Gallardo:the end of every episode. They're like, so good. Like I
Janette Gallardo:love like, listening to those as well, though. Yeah,
Lori Saitz:yeah. And I really enjoy creating them, which is I
Lori Saitz:think part of the feeling that you get is because I'm putting
Lori Saitz:energy into them. And I love it. And yeah, so yeah.
Janette Gallardo:I love that. So let me ask you this, because
Janette Gallardo:I mean, I have so many questions for you. And I know I'm going
Janette Gallardo:all over the place. But I wanted to ask you, how long were you
Janette Gallardo:stuck in fine? And how long did it take you to realize that you
Janette Gallardo:know, like, how was how was the process for you? Like, did you
Janette Gallardo:know you were stuck in fine for a long time, but you didn't have
Janette Gallardo:the courage to move forward? Or did you realize that all of a
Janette Gallardo:sudden, like, oh, like walk us through that? How did it show up
Lori Saitz:Yeah, yeah, I will answer that question. And it
Lori Saitz:for you?
Lori Saitz:was, and I think for most people, it you know, you know
Lori Saitz:that you're in fine for a long time. Because find is
Lori Saitz:comfortable. It's like a warm blanket. You don't want to get,
Lori Saitz:you know, warm blanket on a cold day, let's say. You don't want
Lori Saitz:to leave it because again, it comes back to it's scary. And so
Lori Saitz:I mean, I don't I probably knew for 10 years. But I kept
Lori Saitz:thinking that I we can fix this, it can get better, it can be
Lori Saitz:better than fine. It will just yeah, we can do this, we can do
Lori Saitz:that we can, I can work harder, I can make it happen. Because I
Lori Saitz:didn't know I didn't want to do the hard thing. No, I didn't get
Lori Saitz:married thinking that I was going to get divorced. In fact,
Lori Saitz:that's my parents got divorced when I was about 11. And I
Lori Saitz:always said that's something I'm never going to do. And I
Lori Saitz:deliberately looked. In my head, I made the choice. But it wasn't
Lori Saitz:until I looked back. Like I didn't only date people whose
Lori Saitz:parents had been married forever. But that is who I ended
Lori Saitz:up marrying was somebody whose parents were married for 50
Lori Saitz:years. I don't remember how old I mean, they were married for
Lori Saitz:their entire lives. Yeah. And because I thought, okay, I want
Lori Saitz:somebody who knows what that is like. And that is who I married.
Lori Saitz:And it still didn't work for me. So but yeah, it, it takes a long
Lori Saitz:time to build up the courage to come to the edge and jump.
Janette Gallardo:Right. And then when you were ready to make
Janette Gallardo:that, I guess, decision to move forward. What tools did you use?
Janette Gallardo:To get you through them?
Lori Saitz:It was again, it was meditation for the most part.
Lori Saitz:Yeah, I'm in starting, I started meditating before I actually
Lori Saitz:left but yeah, using using meditation. And, and just
Lori Saitz:getting to the point, you know, again, after my mom passed away,
Lori Saitz:and that was still four years before I left the marriage. But
Lori Saitz:because she was only 73. And I don't think it really matters.
Lori Saitz:She could have been, you know, 103 you start looking at your
Lori Saitz:life going all right. Do I want to live the next 20 years the
Lori Saitz:same way I lived the last 20? And if the answer is no, what
Lori Saitz:are you going to do about it? And that's what kept going in my
Lori Saitz:head of Alright, what am I going to do about it? What do I how do
Lori Saitz:I want to live differently?
Janette Gallardo:And that Yeah, and that is I think the question
Janette Gallardo:that not a lot of people well, maybe they get to ask that
Janette Gallardo:question for themselves, but they just neglect the like. I'm
Janette Gallardo:fine. Like, why would I go through all of that? Like, you
Janette Gallardo:know, like the comfort of just showing up to a marriage that
Janette Gallardo:maybe doesn't make me happy, but I have all this other things to
Janette Gallardo:make up for it.
Lori Saitz:Right. Right. At least I know what I have here.
Janette Gallardo:Exactly, exactly. And the distractions,
Janette Gallardo:like I feel like we almost kind of like turn into, like, we
Janette Gallardo:start brainwashing ourselves and like, find distractions. So we
Janette Gallardo:don't have to deal with that, even though we know we have to.
Janette Gallardo:But that's one of the the things that I believe keeps us there.
Janette Gallardo:Um, so. And sometimes I almost feel like when you, you're you,
Janette Gallardo:you have done all the work, you're outside of fine. But
Janette Gallardo:you're still have more work to do. Yeah. Do you find that?
Lori Saitz:Yes, for sure. Because I have tremendous amount
Lori Saitz:of guilt. We are being honest here, which I am. Yeah, for even
Lori Saitz:now, I've worked through a lot of it. So I don't have nearly as
Lori Saitz:much but those first year, first year for sure. Even the second
Lori Saitz:year, so much freaking guilt because I was the one who said,
Lori Saitz:we need to move past you know, we I was the one who left. I was
Lori Saitz:the one who initiated it, even though he agrees that the
Lori Saitz:relationship wasn't serving either one of us. And in fact, a
Lori Saitz:bout a year ago, we were having a conversation. And he's he's
Lori Saitz:the one who said, in order for us to if we were ever to get
Lori Saitz:back together, we would have to sacrifice and individually
Lori Saitz:sacrifice too much of who we are, to make it work. And that
Lori Saitz:was so profound for me. He was saying that because he knew I
Lori Saitz:was still dealing with a lot of guilt from it. And he was trying
Lori Saitz:to help me work through that. Hmm, which is a tremendous. See,
Lori Saitz:now you just keep taking me into a crying place. tribute to who
Lori Saitz:he is.
Janette Gallardo:Hmmm. Yeah, wow. And that is, I feel that
Janette Gallardo:and by the way, tears, I find tears beautiful. So not shaming,
Janette Gallardo:crying, I appreciate all emotions, and they're beautiful,
Janette Gallardo:and they make us human, and they make us connect to others. So
Janette Gallardo:thank you, thank you for for sharing, sharing with us. Um,
Janette Gallardo:but I was gonna say, that piece where you're like, Okay, I'm out
Janette Gallardo:of fine. And I and I am doing better. But I do find that it's
Janette Gallardo:always we always have to work on ourselves, even when we're
Janette Gallardo:outside of flying, even when we have done all the work, there's
Janette Gallardo:always more work to be done. So we don't get a get, we don't, we
Janette Gallardo:don't find the next 2.05 version of us, you know, like right now.
Janette Gallardo:Like, you have to keep on going and doing the work. And I and I
Janette Gallardo:do believe that's what you do in your program with those women
Janette Gallardo:that, uh, you know, like they they are, um, they have done all
Janette Gallardo:the work already there outside of fine or they're trying to get
Janette Gallardo:outside outside of fine. And they don't want to get stuck in
Janette Gallardo:the Fine, fine 2.0 version of themselves. So walk through
Janette Gallardo:that.
Lori Saitz:That's a that's a great, a great analogy or a
Lori Saitz:great way to put it. And yeah, you know, I don't I will talk
Lori Saitz:about that. And then we can since we kind of brought it full
Lori Saitz:circle back to the whole idea of that education and learning is a
Lori Saitz:lifelong process. And then we can we can wrap it up because we
Lori Saitz:could go on forever. But yeah, I like to keep them a little bit
Lori Saitz:condensed. Um Yeah, I mean, that's part of the the program
Lori Saitz:is really just about giving people tools. It's
Lori Saitz:accountability. It's a group program because groups tend to
Lori Saitz:you know, you have the support of each other. So when I do
Lori Saitz:private client, which I do also, but I that you know, you have me
Lori Saitz:as the support. But when you have a group then you have a
Lori Saitz:small, small tribe, to support you as well to share ideas to
Lori Saitz:share experiences to help everybody feel like okay, I'm
Lori Saitz:not alone in this. I'm not the only one who feels guilt around
Lori Saitz:this. I'm not the only one struggling with meditating or
Lori Saitz:I'm not the only one struggling with making these decisions,
Lori Saitz:whatever it is, finding purpose. The it is it's a lifelong
Lori Saitz:ongoing experience, which is why we need to know why there are so
Lori Saitz:many different programs, so many different books, so many
Lori Saitz:different podcasts. There's there's perspective from every
Lori Saitz:single one of them that is different and useful.
Janette Gallardo:Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. So yeah, for
Janette Gallardo:sure. It's always a work work to be done and, and growth is just
Janette Gallardo:consistent every day type of thing. So finally our last
Janette Gallardo:question to end today's interview. In baseball, there's
Janette Gallardo:what's known as your walk up song. What is yours? The one
Janette Gallardo:that pumps you up. The one that gets you ready? Yeah.
Lori Saitz:So you're asking the girl who has spent time as an on
Lori Saitz:air radio personality who loves music? And that's why I
Lori Saitz:implemented this question in my podcast. So I of course have so
Lori Saitz:many songs and I make my guests choose one. So if I had to only
Lori Saitz:choose one, it would probably be Carrie Underwood's Champion.
Lori Saitz:However, it could also be Van Halen/Van Hagar because that's
Lori Saitz:what the era was, but their song Right Now.
Janette Gallardo:Oh, I love that.
Lori Saitz:So I will put links to both of those in the show
Lori Saitz:notes and and P!nk. I mean, almost everything P!nk. Her
Lori Saitz:songs totally get you pumped up. Yeah, those are
Janette Gallardo:I love those like they also the contrast of
Janette Gallardo:each of them. Love love.
Lori Saitz:yeah, I diversity, diversity and music tastes for
Lori Saitz:sure.
Janette Gallardo:I love that. So well, thank you. Thank you
Janette Gallardo:for opening up to us and sharing your story. And I love that we
Janette Gallardo:get to learn more about you and who's behind the microphone and
Janette Gallardo:the interview. So thank you and gratitude.
Lori Saitz:Thank you Janette for being such an amazing host
Lori Saitz:of my own podcast. And for offering to in fact suggesting
Lori Saitz:this was your idea to do this episode and I thought it was
Lori Saitz:such a great, great thing to do for Episode 25. So thank you so
Lori Saitz:much for joining me here on Fine is a 4-Letter Word.
Janette Gallardo:Thank you have a beautiful rest of your day.